"Open your mind" week continues, and today's topic - Darwin vs God. But we're gonna call it Intelligent Design cause we want to get this video into classrooms.
“Open Your Mind Week” continues, and today’s topic: Darwin vs. God! [Bell rings] But we’re gonna call it “intelligent design,” ’cause we want to get this video into classrooms. A while back, we made a show on the scientific method. It got featured on Youtube, and the flame war begain. All we were trying to say is that lots of stuff is labelled “science” that isn’t really scientific, and some people have started treating science like a religion. But no-one really paid attention to what we actually said; the whole thing just degenerated into a discussion– debate– no, catfight about evolution vs. intelligent design.
But I’m gonna stick by my original assertion: that some people do treat science like a religion, and among them, noted evolutionary biologist Richard Dawkins. He’s like the poster child for neo-Darwinism. You know, like the Pope for Catholicism, or Tom Cruise for Scientology-ism. He’s also the guy who said, “As a scientist, I am pretty hostile to a rival doctrine.” Rival doctrine? I looked up “doctrine” in my dictionary; it’s defined as “a belief or set of beliefs held by a church, political party, or other group.” But focus on the beginning: a doctrine is a belief. So just like any other religious zealot, Dr. Dawkins is hostile to opposing beliefs, like creationism, and intelligent design. Because they’re the same thing, right?
Well, no, they’re not. And who do I call as my expert witness? Dr. Richard Dawkins! In an interview with Ben Stein for the movie Expelled, he stated quite clearly that no-one knows how life started, and that there’s a real possibility that life on this planet may have been seeded or influenced by higher forms of life. Like aliens or something. Told you they were here. Gotta make this into a hat somehow.
So he agrees that life could have been influenced or created by someone not from around here. So what are we fighting about? Semantics. You see, Dr. Dawkins doesn’t like it when people call the extraterrestrial God. Probably because he got paddled in Sunday School as a kid. Hooray! The debate is over! We solved the intelligent design-evolution war! Now we can all be friends again. And now people can teach intelligent design in schools. Some people hope to use that as a stepping-stone to teach creationism in the classroom, but think about that, guys. Do you really want the Bible taught in schools? I remember when high school English teachers did to Tom Sawyer – ruined. Forever. Do you really want them doing that with your holy writ? Maybe we should just stick to ABCs, 123s, and boiling things in test tubes.
Beyond that, I have one real major issue with intelligent design: it’s not science. At least, no-one to date has been able to show me the theory in a truly scientific light. They say some things are complex, so complex that they must have been created intelligently, rather than accidentally. Okay. But at what point of complexity? I mean, where do you draw the line? It seems arbitrary, and that’s not very scientific. Uh, maybe we shouldn’t teach it as science. Maybe philosophy or something. But there are other philosophies that get taught in science class. You know, like evolution. Woah, buddy – don’t tangle with the Dawkins doctrine.
Let’s examine the facts around evolution: if it ever did take place, it isn’t now. At least not that anyone can demonstrate. And the odds of it happening are really, really, really long. If scientists and educators could own up to that, I’m sure ID never would have even come up. But most people who believe in evolution aren’t willing to admit how unlikely it is, because it dramatically weakens their argument. And if you disagree that it’s unlikely, then you’re in another pickle, because if the odds are good, then you figure we’d have seen evidence of it by now. Like, concrete evidence of it. People like to point out natural selection and the resulting speciation as evidence of evolution, because there’s a mountain of data to support both of those as testable, observable science. But don’t forget: we define what a species is, and no amount of ash on trees has ever changed a moth, dark or light, into a bee or a bird.
They also like to point at bacterial mutation as evidence of evolution, but I have an issue with that, too. We’ve been watching those little guys since the invention of the microscope over 300 years ago, and while they’ve changed genetically and adapted as bacteria, they’ve never evolved into a new, higher form of life. Think about this: if a bacterial generation is 20 minutes, and a human generation is 20 years, then they should be evolving 525,000 times faster than we are. And if it took 3.2 million years for Lucy, the alleged missing linke, to become modern man, we should expect to see similar evolutionary advancements in bacteria in a period of just six years. [Whistles]. Wow. And I’m talking about real evolution. Not just slight alterations to DNA, or building up immunities to this or that, but transforming, actually evolving into something more complex – a brand new form of life. A higher form of life. They ought to have their own little civilization, and have bacto-mobiles, and at least be insects by now. I dunno.
“Evolution has been observed. It’s just that it hasn’t been observed while it’s happening,” says Dawkins. “It is rather like a detective coming on a murder after the scene. And you – the detective – hasn’t actually seen the murder take place, of course. But what you do see is a massive clue. Huge quantities of circumstantial evidence. It might as well be spelled out in words of English.” But ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh! Â Dr. Dawkins! Pick me! Pick me! Circumstantial evidence is subject to interpretation, and doesn’t necessarily prove anything. It’s like seeing two bones on the ground 40 feet apart and assuming it came from the same animal. Skullcap, thigh bone – Java Man!
The evidence of evolution may indeed spell out a message in plain English. We’ve never seen it happen. We can’t prove it happened, we can’t reproduce it, but it’s the best we’ve got, so we have to believe it. Which is a pretty poor qualifier for teaching it as an undeniable fact to impressionable young minds. Why don’t we just teach the truth? We don’t know how life came about. Why is that so threatening? You can’t prove that evolution happened, or that it didn’t. It’s beyond the current capacity of science to draw a conclusion with any degree of certainty. And if we were to subject evolutionary theory to the same rigors that scientists want to impose on ID, it probably wouldn’t pass the test to be classified as science, either.
So you think we made ‘em mad? All of ‘em? Hey, whether you’re into creationism, ID, or evolution, you know where our website is. Flame responsibly. [Bell rings]
Transcribed by: Justin G.
By Request:
MOYERS: Is evolution a theory, not a fact?
DAWKINS: Evolution has been observed. It’s just that it hasn’t been observed while it’s happening.
MOYERS: What do you mean it’s been observed.
DAWKINS: The consequences of. It is rather like a detective coming on a murder after the scene. And you… the detective hasn’t actually seen the murder take place, of course. But what you do see is a massive clue. Now, any detective…
MOYERS: Circumstantial evidence.
DAWKINS: Circumstantial evidence, but masses of circumstantial evidence. Huge quantities of circumstantial evidence. It might as well be spelled out in words of English. Evolution is true. I mean it’s as circumstantial as that, but it’s as true as that.
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ph1234k
The only problem with this video is that you seem to think that evolution is a theory of how life ...The Perspicacious Loris
You kept the foil-ball ball?The Perspicacious Loris
To me, it makes sense to say that God set evolution in motion. If the animals and plants (and ...Milamber29
I find this entire argument stupid. i dunno maybe the way its taught in america is different but where i ...exclamation
Dawkins is definitely a religious zealot. That part of your video, I agree with completely, having read one of his ...Mati
On you tube there's a series called "before the dinosaurs". What fantasy. How "science" KNOWS that certain dinosaurs ...There’s no such thing as "Separation of Church and State"
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Since I KNOW: I say macro evolution is a bunch of nonsence. Micro evolution is possible though. A single cell ...FanOfAr
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@ thor123422: Cosidering everything about evelution is all based on theory how do we even know it took 2 million+ ...Thor123422
Whoops forgot something. Observing bacteria not going to a higher being isn't a good argument. It took bacteria ...Thor123422
There's 2 big problems with his argument against evolution here. 1. He drastically, and I mean HORRIBLY DRASTICALLY DOESN'T EVEN ...Child_of_86
I am surprised by the egotistical and elitist comments posted by many. You claim that anyone who is a ...jakykong
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But going from a single cell bacteria to a multi-cellular organism is a bit different Lucy to a modern human. ...Jair
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1. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Navel-gazing 2. Dr. Purdom has signed AIG's statement of faith: http://www.answersingenesis.org/about/faith She already has all her answers: Jesus! God! 6000 years! so ...Mr. G.
Rich, While I await Dr. Purdom's response, thank you for your patience towards me and that you have not resorted to ...AnotherSqueezedRadish(or Turnip?)
I proclaim you both evil heretics and servants of Orycteropus Afer and I rebuke you! You will be consigned to the ...Rich
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To Another Squeezed... For the most part I agree with your fine and respectful presentation of ideas. Now I'd like ...Mr. G.
Rich, If abiogenesis has nothing to do with evolution, then why is it in every section of every Biology book I ...AnotherSqueezedRadish(or Turnip?)
As a founding member of The Church of The Informed Minority Of The Enlightened Colony, (I am in fact the ...Rich
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Rich, I clicked on the link and was amazed to find that they did not date the artifact, but the ash ...Dimensio
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"DAWKINS: Evolution has been observed. It’s just that it hasn’t been observed while it’s happening." PRICELESS!Rich
"Biblical Christianity, you will find that it is supported by the science of archeolgy." WRONG. Biblical Christianity says the world is ...Mr. G.
Alex, Yes, and no. It depends on your religion. For example if you examine Biblical Christianity, you will find ...Alex
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Miguel, It's pretty bold to assume someone has never read or studied an issue just because they don't happen to ...Miguel Chavez
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PS Quadfather. The issue is not to define 'science' but scientific theory' - Nice try to move the goalposts. I ...Rich
Biological processes are physical processes. The organic substrate is physical. Moreover, show me 'information' without an associated physical presence...QuadFather
Rich, ` Language is constituted by *symbols* that are converted into physical states by an information processing system (or by physical states ...Rich
Mr. G. That's a lot of question begging. You could similarly argue that physics is a language that tells matter how ...Mr. G.
Rich, Agreed that it is an analogy. So is nature (or do you say Nature?) the designer of the arthropod ...QuadFather
Rich, ` Here's an analogy: ` My car sits in the driveway. Nothing happens. ` I call the mechanic and an engineer. They build me a new car.QuadFather
Science Avenger, Is is typically your modus operandi to attend to everything but the points that refuted your opinion? ` I guess you ...QuadFather
Alex, No need to defend yourself. I think it's great that you are making yourself aware of this controversy. ` Let me just ...Rich
Mr. G. It's an analogy. D'oh! Cars don't have baby cars, for example.Mr. G.
Hey all, To the lovers of Ken Miller,et al. you need to read his Biology Text "Biology" Prentice Hall (2002) on ...Rich
Quack Quack Quack.. http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/dover/day11pm.html "Q Under that same definition astrology is a scientific theory under your definition, correct? A Under my definition, a ...Science Avenger
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QF: thanks, I did not know it was called the Dover case, that makes finding it very easy. (I must ...QuadFather
Alex, . Well you sound rational enough, and I respect that. FYI, the transcripts of the Dover case are widely available online. . Rich, . I ...Rich
Behe! http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn8178.html "Astrology would be considered a scientific theory if judged by the same criteria used by a well-known advocate of Intelligent ...Alex
I haven't had the chance to actually look up the case itself. The way Miller described the process was that ...QuadFather
Alex, : You really need to understand what was going on, here. The most glaring point that can be made against ...Alex
After two minutes of searching I found this: http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=rj06cvj0VLQ. It is a speech by Ken Miller talking about a trial of ...QuadFather
Good job Paul. It's nice to have somebody who can hold their own in these discussions. : Notice how your opponents ...Rich
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ScienceAvenger, For speaking so confidently, you sure focus an awful lot of time on motives and conspiracies than you do on ...paul
Remember - I'm not saying I know what's right. I'm saying there is an issue here. Check out the Dissent ...paul
I have checked out Expelled exposed site - have you checked out the counterarguments at Discovery or the Expelled site? ...Science Avenger
Sorry Paul, you have been conned. ID is not about science. It was about masking creationism enough to ...paul
Science Avenger. Thanks for responding. My quick response tonight - grading papers and fading quickly...Don't conflate creationism with ID. Very different. ...Science Avenger
Paul, perhaps you miss my point. I'm not arguing that evolution is true because the consensus says so. ...Rich
Meanwhile, back in reality... http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/comdesc/Jeff Long
Good summary analysis of the controversy. But...if after all is said and done evolution is still by admission too ...paul
I thought science wasn't about arguments from authority. Shows you what I know. Sorry about all of this trouble making ...Science Avenger
Those who actually study these issues for a living keep getting more and more certain of the validity of modern ...paul
Mike: what do you mean by the term "evolution"? It has multiple definitions. Obviously you don't mean blind processes responsible for ...paul
Alex: thanks for responding. You need to read Behe's "Edge of Evolution" - there are all kinds of selection pressures placed ...Mike
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Typical ignorant rambling. When he says that evolution has stopped, or that it is too improbable, he's left the ...Alex
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paul: Those are excellent questions which lead into the epistemology and metaphysics of high level science, areas of philosophy which are ...paul
Dave: this is not my area of study, but I do understand that there are multiple levels of organization for proteins. ...Dave
Paul, a 2% genetic change in a human would be 60 million base pairs. But what really matters is the ...paul
Ingrid: ok - fair enough. We disagree. Just for the record, I do think chimps are smart (I know of your ...Ingrid
Yes Paul, I am, how did you put it, "intellectually satisfied with the idea that a 2% difference between chimp ...paul
Question: when's the last time someone in the Christian west got burned at the stake for questioning holy writ? Now, ...paul
Alex: correction - I should have said "letter-generator" not number generator. Perhaps you're familiar with what I'm talking about in ...No blind belief
If the world is 4 billion years old, and it is.... Why did your god wait until the last 4 ...paul
Alex: On your second point. Make sure the programs that claim to demonstrate movements from simple systems to more complex ones ...paul
Alex says: Saying evolution is false because we haven’t seen it is like putting a box on the floor and saying: ...paul
Ingrid: Thanks for responding. So, you are intellectually satisfied with the idea that a 2% difference between chimp and human genetic construction ...paul
Darron: I found some quotes in the area of systematics from researchers that, perhaps, will shed some better light on the ...Alex
Just two things that I really wanted to say: Saying evolution is false because we haven't seen it is like ...Ingrid
paul, I do believe that 2% genetic difference could make the difference between a chimp and a human being. If ...paul
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paul, I'm sorry if my post came across as hostile. I'm simply very matter-of-fact when I exchange ideas. I ...Dave
Paul: We see entities today with these intermediary steps, including heliotropic plants (like sunflowers), photosynthetic animals (like some anemones and ...Shayde
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