BTW, A show on MMS would be good as well. MMS stands fr miracle mineral supplement (dumb name) and it is a combination of sodium clorite and citric acid..forming chlorine dioxide. It was invented by Jim Hubble (Hubble telescope) as a way of helping suffering people in Africa get over Malaria. It stabilizes oxygen provides high levels of oxygen in the bloodstream. It has the effect of killing anaerobic microbes and is effective against malaria and a lot of other things (basically most anaerobic microbes - lots of really bad bugs). It has even been used effectively to treat AIDS...Anyway, ... more (142 words)
I have seen several of your videos and my favorite was the one on global warming...You nailed that one.
I would like to see you do some others that would be good:
9/11 - based on evidence of independent investigations and the work of Professor Steven Jones...see 9/11 mysteries movie or any of his peer reviewed papers
Nibiru (planet x): lots of good sources for this...a lot on youtube
Election fraud and how exactly John Kerry got negative 10,000 votes in one district...There was a good HBO special on this that was originally done by a group of nosey grandmothers digging through the trash, finding discarded polling receipts (signed by poll workers - a felony to discard) and noticed that they did not match the official numbers, and many more examples.
FEMA camps: began to be setup in the late 1990s and have now increased in number across the country...current estimates are at around 800. They have tall razor ribbon fences with the razor wire facing in, rail stations, gas chambers, and some have stacks of tens of thousands of plastic coffins in or around them. There is also video footage of UN prisoner trains with shackels on the floors sometimes seen in these camps...
There ... lots more (245 words)
Brothers Winn~
Chickenchaser's husband claims the reverse weapon grip on the knife can actually be MORE effective for you in a combat or fight situation.
I asked him about this after watching this episode. He is trained in hand to hand and says go for the reverse grip for many of the same reasons given by others already. You know where he's at if you want to ask him!
Hmm..nospinplease has a point. It would be lazy of me to leave because you guys are having a bad point.
Thus...after figuring out the random selection of keys I had typed (this took a while), I believe I will just sit and watch without really commenting for a while, to see if things get better or not.
Thanks, nospinplease, for putting things in some amount of perspective.
Hey, Winn bros Lodinkinni is right. After looking at your videos, they do seem to be a slacking a bit.
And motr_man, he got his information from personal experience, yes that is experience!
I do not however agree with Lodinkinni's idea of just leaving when it seems you guys are in a slump. You guys have always made great videos and will probably continue to do so, I don't get why you would leave 22 and stop watching just because some of the shows are slacking just a bit. Also, there always was and will be disagreements, remember flame responsibly, ... more (144 words)
@Lodinkinni ok... I see what you mean and I looking back at the last few shows I noticed the same theme also. I still think the shows are great and halirious, but it does seem like the shows have been getting less informative. They were better in the beginning. I'm sorry for saying this Winn Brothers. I still love you guys, but I do agree with Lodinkinni, just not to the extreme that I would stop watching... You guys should step it up a little or risk losing the loyal fans you've had since the beginning. I'm not saying I ... more (118 words)
And thus, my final post as a 22 member:
As for my knowledge on the reverse grip:
I have studied mixed martial art forms for over 12 years now, and have both the scars and techniques to prove that I know what I'm doing. And yes, I do know more than most special forces, because they are taught the easiest, most straightforward way to fight.
As for pressure point availability, by keeping the knife back close to your wrist, you prevent a good 75% of the disarm techniques classically taught in your garden variety disciplines of martial arts. The blade itself can be used as a defense, and a nice easy twisting manuever can remove your opponent's fingers or hand, should he be foolish enough to grab for the pressure points on your wrists.
In addition, I should add that the force of the reverse grip is often supplimented by your second hand. In one of the two way slashes common to iedo, for example, your first slash is with the knife's blade pointed away, to draw your opponent into the return strike, when you flip the blade, and apply more force with your other hand.
As for show qualities, I think perhaps my major ... lots more (293 words)
I would prefer a burn tbh as long as it is localized and not too severe. Those fake gum shocker things are useless against me though cause I've never had a piece in my life :D
I am a redhead as well (referring to rdcjr1290). I am intrigued by the thermal vs. electric tolerance thresholds study. I have not been zapped too many times but I can say that the momentary plump tingly feeling of an electrical shock is preferable to the long lasting, blistering, scarring, carcinoma effects of any type of burn (sun, fire, self immolation, branding iron...).
Great stuff.
P.S. If you think this is riled up you should go back and read the comments that were made during the Open Minded Week. The political tangents in particular definitely got out of hand. It was a classic example of people taking offense where none was intended. Since then we've all sort of wordlessly agreed that we won't take things too seriously here, and I for one feel that its for the best.
@motr_man. First of all, iedo and laido are two completely different weapon styles ( I think the two are easily confused on this forum. Probably because the upper case i is practically identical to the lower case L of the font we're using). I have studied both styles, and there is a remarkable amount of similarities and difference between the two. Each has its own particular strengths and weaknesses. For example, if you want to become combat effective quickly iedo is definitely the more effective of the two; however, if you are more interested in using weapons kata as a method to developed focus and using kata as a form of meditation, laido definitely has the upper hand. Yes, laido does use standard more often than reverse grip. The only reverse grip laido katas I’m aware of are practiced at the upper black belt levels. Reverse grip is much more common in iedo techniques, but it does use standard grip occasionally as well. I don’t entirely agree with some of the comments that have been made about reverse grip (like the range comment) but some of them are very valid. I ... lots more (251 words)
Wow, some people are really riled up on this one! But they seem to know more about Star Wars than they do about real Martial Arts or knife fighting.
@ Lodinkinni - The show quality is great - the comments are questionable. Where did you get your information? A comic book convention? (1) If a forward grip is "the incorrect stabbing motion" why are special forces taught to use it? Or are you claiming you know more that they do? (2) All the same pressure points are available no matter how you hold the knife - the only difference is the timing and technique of how you get a hold of the wrist in the first place. (3) "Defend the vulnerable wrist" - only in one direction, just like holding it forward. (4) "Slashing does more damage than a simple stab." Not necessarily, slashing over the ribs is much less effective than stabbing between them. And reverse grip is predominately used for deep stabbing. So they got it right - you got it backwards. (4) Better Control - debatable. (5) Better protection - not always. ... lots more (293 words)
No offense guys, but the last few episodes have been kinda slacking, compared to the quality of former shows.
Just because you've had to reduce quantity doesn't mean you should reduce quality of episodes.
I'm a martial artist. The reverse weapon grip increases the force you can place on a weapon, without it being brought from your grasp. A forward grip (the incorrect stabbing motion) leaves your wrist open to pressure point abuse and gives you very little protection. The reverse grip allows you to defend the vulnerable wrist while slashing, which does much more damage than a simple stab.
Thats the reason for the reverse grip: Better control, better protection, and a much wider range of attack.
Well Glenn, I tried, ad can't find anything on Iedo. Disappointing as I'd actually like to learn something about it. As for a knife, there are times when I would use it in a reverse grip, mostly when fighting someone whose weapon has a longer reach then mine, because it would give you a solider block, make you less likely to lose the knife while blocking, and you could use it to hook and trap and drag you opponent's weapon to the outside, allowing you to get close where you have the more effective weapon. I would also hold it ... more (188 words)
Personally, I would be afraid of the reverse grip b/c I can totally see myself dropping my arm (of course quickly and suddenly) and stapping myself in the leg.
You could've told us you were going on an interstate trip. *cries in corner*...
And I would pick the knife because a broomstick ain't gonna be much defense against an 8 inch stabby weapon.
I discovered this sight on tuesday,and ive seen all the episodes,Yess thats right all 225 of them!!!!!! =D
School doesnt have much to do, and ive now (thanks to the powers of the internet) put wyotk in the "Recomended Learning Sites" for the entire school
HA lets ee the I.T guy get out of this one !!!!!
To Glenn : Ahh you're the other Brother . Well the guy in front of the camera sorta insinuated , that the guy in the back was a red head. Sorry my mistake. Or maybe he was trying to say "the guy in the back , feel more pain"?
Well Scott, that's why reverse grip take more control in order to make it effective. Stabbing through the rib is nice, but if you can angle your strike to fit between you opponents ribs you can do quite a bit of damage. Its kind of a moot point though because you can do either type of strike with a normal or reverse grip. Oh, and at the risk of sounding incredibly geeky, there is a mineral in the star wars universe that's resistant to light sabers. All you'd need is an arm guard made out of ... more (161 words)
At the risk of being gory, if you hold a knife point up it fits better in between the bad guy's ribs. If you hold it point down, the blade just tends to rake across them. It is a moot point when it comes to lightsaber dueling. Personally, I'd want to keep that beautifully glowing instantly-cuts-off-whatever-body-part-it-touches blade as far away from my own arms, legs, head, and torso as possible. Definitely point up.
I'm a redhead (strawberry blonde actually) and while I agree we probably do have more pain hormone released to trigger pain, I can't say I have superpowers when feeling pain. I do like the reverse grip info, but I'm with behind the camera guy and high-tail it outta there!
Nice segues!
I definitely don't use a reverse grip when using that kind of weapon... generally a more standard toothbrush-hold, which is much more effective for fighting plaque.
As a redhead, and one that has undergone two major abdominal surgeries (C-sections), I can vouch for the increased pain thing. When I was in the hospital, the nurses and my doctor told me that redheads tend to request pain medication more often, and also bleed more than other people.
Although that's not so good, I usually love being a redhead!
I'm a redhead. The pain thing is totally true. Also, Chuck Norris is AWESOME! He sang the theme song to his own (arguably worse ever) t.v. show, and he can take all y'all. And, he doesn't have a chin. He has a third fist.
Oh, the thing with the pain receptors is actually almost right.
You see, we don't really need the brain to respond to pain. Just to feel it. When you get hurt the first reaction is by your muscles pulling back. Then, when you are safe, the signals reach your brain and you become aware of the pain.
.
If the signals would go to the brain first it would take a long time to respond. The pain is actually just so you can learn that sticking your hand in a flame is bad.
-Abaddon, I've never used one myself but I would assume that Lightsabers are . . . well . . . light. Think about it, the blade has no mass. You're basically just swinging a handle around. Now combine that with a sword style thats known for being fast AND ruthless. Sounds like a wining combination for a Sith Lord if you ask me. Unfortunately I don't have any links on the subject of iedo, but you'd probably come up with something worth while if you google the name. Most of my knowledge comes from ... more (183 words)
Reverse grip is also used when fighting with two Malayan krises. The one in your strong hand is the one you fight with and is held in a regular grip, while the one in your weak hand is reversed and held against the forearm. You use that one for purely defensive stuff. Or for if you drop your first knife. Or if your first knife becomes unusable because someone exploited the all-too-thin tang by bashing your knife with a heavy object and bending it all out of shape.
I can't pretend to have any practical knowledge on the use of a reverse grip in a fight, but it seems like what you described, Glenn, would fare better for a sword fight than a knife fight. However, I appreciate your history and analysis of it. Good show, as usual. See you in "six" days?
Hmmm... Thanks Glenn, you got some links on you? I may do some research of my own on this one. Now that I think about it, I can come up with a couple of reasons to hold a knife in a reverse grip. Still can't figure out why you would do it with a lightsaber though.
I'm afraid I have to disagree with Brett (formerly known as the guy in front of the camera) regarding the reverse grip question. Reverse grip was first truly develop through a Japanese sword style called Iedo (I think that's how you spell it). Iedo spends a lot of time in reverse grip for two reason: its provides for very fast solid blocking, and all techniques can be transformed into a strike with a flick of the wrist. Iedo was originally developed as a quickdraw sword style designed to counter assassins. Because of its quick techniques, fast ... more (153 words)
Now I have to ask, what I so wrong with Utah? Though if you drove through southern Utah I could agree with you. I go to school in southern Utah and I have to admit that nothing is going on besides the tiny little retirement city that is known as St. George. Other words everything is happening in Northern Utah.
44 Comments
vududady
BTW, A show on MMS would be good as well. MMS stands fr miracle mineral supplement (dumb name) and it is a combination of sodium clorite and citric acid..forming chlorine dioxide. It was invented by Jim Hubble (Hubble telescope) as a way of helping suffering people in Africa get over Malaria. It stabilizes oxygen provides high levels of oxygen in the bloodstream. It has the effect of killing anaerobic microbes and is effective against malaria and a lot of other things (basically most anaerobic microbes - lots of really bad bugs). It has even been used effectively to treat AIDS...Anyway, ... more (142 words)vududady
I have seen several of your videos and my favorite was the one on global warming...You nailed that one. I would like to see you do some others that would be good: 9/11 - based on evidence of independent investigations and the work of Professor Steven Jones...see 9/11 mysteries movie or any of his peer reviewed papers Nibiru (planet x): lots of good sources for this...a lot on youtube Election fraud and how exactly John Kerry got negative 10,000 votes in one district...There was a good HBO special on this that was originally done by a group of nosey grandmothers digging through the trash, finding discarded polling receipts (signed by poll workers - a felony to discard) and noticed that they did not match the official numbers, and many more examples. FEMA camps: began to be setup in the late 1990s and have now increased in number across the country...current estimates are at around 800. They have tall razor ribbon fences with the razor wire facing in, rail stations, gas chambers, and some have stacks of tens of thousands of plastic coffins in or around them. There is also video footage of UN prisoner trains with shackels on the floors sometimes seen in these camps... There ... lots more (245 words)chickenchaser
Brothers Winn~ Chickenchaser's husband claims the reverse weapon grip on the knife can actually be MORE effective for you in a combat or fight situation. I asked him about this after watching this episode. He is trained in hand to hand and says go for the reverse grip for many of the same reasons given by others already. You know where he's at if you want to ask him!senpai
That was beautiful. I like all the random facts...haleymathiot
Love this! do it again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Lodinkinni [22]
Hmm..nospinplease has a point. It would be lazy of me to leave because you guys are having a bad point. Thus...after figuring out the random selection of keys I had typed (this took a while), I believe I will just sit and watch without really commenting for a while, to see if things get better or not. Thanks, nospinplease, for putting things in some amount of perspective.Nospinplease
Hey, Winn bros Lodinkinni is right. After looking at your videos, they do seem to be a slacking a bit. And motr_man, he got his information from personal experience, yes that is experience! I do not however agree with Lodinkinni's idea of just leaving when it seems you guys are in a slump. You guys have always made great videos and will probably continue to do so, I don't get why you would leave 22 and stop watching just because some of the shows are slacking just a bit. Also, there always was and will be disagreements, remember flame responsibly, ... more (144 words)steph {207}
@Lodinkinni ok... I see what you mean and I looking back at the last few shows I noticed the same theme also. I still think the shows are great and halirious, but it does seem like the shows have been getting less informative. They were better in the beginning. I'm sorry for saying this Winn Brothers. I still love you guys, but I do agree with Lodinkinni, just not to the extreme that I would stop watching... You guys should step it up a little or risk losing the loyal fans you've had since the beginning. I'm not saying I ... more (118 words)Lodinkinni [22]
And thus, my final post as a 22 member: As for my knowledge on the reverse grip: I have studied mixed martial art forms for over 12 years now, and have both the scars and techniques to prove that I know what I'm doing. And yes, I do know more than most special forces, because they are taught the easiest, most straightforward way to fight. As for pressure point availability, by keeping the knife back close to your wrist, you prevent a good 75% of the disarm techniques classically taught in your garden variety disciplines of martial arts. The blade itself can be used as a defense, and a nice easy twisting manuever can remove your opponent's fingers or hand, should he be foolish enough to grab for the pressure points on your wrists. In addition, I should add that the force of the reverse grip is often supplimented by your second hand. In one of the two way slashes common to iedo, for example, your first slash is with the knife's blade pointed away, to draw your opponent into the return strike, when you flip the blade, and apply more force with your other hand. As for show qualities, I think perhaps my major ... lots more (293 words)Rob B
I would prefer a burn tbh as long as it is localized and not too severe. Those fake gum shocker things are useless against me though cause I've never had a piece in my life :Dbernamonster
I am a redhead as well (referring to rdcjr1290). I am intrigued by the thermal vs. electric tolerance thresholds study. I have not been zapped too many times but I can say that the momentary plump tingly feeling of an electrical shock is preferable to the long lasting, blistering, scarring, carcinoma effects of any type of burn (sun, fire, self immolation, branding iron...). Great stuff.Nospinplease
That is a lot of suggestions into one video. Still great! As usual!Soul Sister [22]
This is the most random show I think you've ever made! I love it!Glenn
P.S. If you think this is riled up you should go back and read the comments that were made during the Open Minded Week. The political tangents in particular definitely got out of hand. It was a classic example of people taking offense where none was intended. Since then we've all sort of wordlessly agreed that we won't take things too seriously here, and I for one feel that its for the best.Glenn
@motr_man. First of all, iedo and laido are two completely different weapon styles ( I think the two are easily confused on this forum. Probably because the upper case i is practically identical to the lower case L of the font we're using). I have studied both styles, and there is a remarkable amount of similarities and difference between the two. Each has its own particular strengths and weaknesses. For example, if you want to become combat effective quickly iedo is definitely the more effective of the two; however, if you are more interested in using weapons kata as a method to developed focus and using kata as a form of meditation, laido definitely has the upper hand. Yes, laido does use standard more often than reverse grip. The only reverse grip laido katas I’m aware of are practiced at the upper black belt levels. Reverse grip is much more common in iedo techniques, but it does use standard grip occasionally as well. I don’t entirely agree with some of the comments that have been made about reverse grip (like the range comment) but some of them are very valid. I ... lots more (251 words)motr_man
Wow, some people are really riled up on this one! But they seem to know more about Star Wars than they do about real Martial Arts or knife fighting. @ Lodinkinni - The show quality is great - the comments are questionable. Where did you get your information? A comic book convention? (1) If a forward grip is "the incorrect stabbing motion" why are special forces taught to use it? Or are you claiming you know more that they do? (2) All the same pressure points are available no matter how you hold the knife - the only difference is the timing and technique of how you get a hold of the wrist in the first place. (3) "Defend the vulnerable wrist" - only in one direction, just like holding it forward. (4) "Slashing does more damage than a simple stab." Not necessarily, slashing over the ribs is much less effective than stabbing between them. And reverse grip is predominately used for deep stabbing. So they got it right - you got it backwards. (4) Better Control - debatable. (5) Better protection - not always. ... lots more (293 words)Lodinkinni [22]
No offense guys, but the last few episodes have been kinda slacking, compared to the quality of former shows. Just because you've had to reduce quantity doesn't mean you should reduce quality of episodes.Lodinkinni [22]
I'm a martial artist. The reverse weapon grip increases the force you can place on a weapon, without it being brought from your grasp. A forward grip (the incorrect stabbing motion) leaves your wrist open to pressure point abuse and gives you very little protection. The reverse grip allows you to defend the vulnerable wrist while slashing, which does much more damage than a simple stab. Thats the reason for the reverse grip: Better control, better protection, and a much wider range of attack.Abaddon
Well Glenn, I tried, ad can't find anything on Iedo. Disappointing as I'd actually like to learn something about it. As for a knife, there are times when I would use it in a reverse grip, mostly when fighting someone whose weapon has a longer reach then mine, because it would give you a solider block, make you less likely to lose the knife while blocking, and you could use it to hook and trap and drag you opponent's weapon to the outside, allowing you to get close where you have the more effective weapon. I would also hold it ... more (188 words)thorondor {207}
I would pick the broom handle because you can hit them once and then run far away before he gets a chance to hit youpkw
Personally, I would be afraid of the reverse grip b/c I can totally see myself dropping my arm (of course quickly and suddenly) and stapping myself in the leg.Rob B
You could've told us you were going on an interstate trip. *cries in corner*... And I would pick the knife because a broomstick ain't gonna be much defense against an 8 inch stabby weapon.ACE
I discovered this sight on tuesday,and ive seen all the episodes,Yess thats right all 225 of them!!!!!! =D School doesnt have much to do, and ive now (thanks to the powers of the internet) put wyotk in the "Recomended Learning Sites" for the entire school HA lets ee the I.T guy get out of this one !!!!!Guin
To Glenn : Ahh you're the other Brother . Well the guy in front of the camera sorta insinuated , that the guy in the back was a red head. Sorry my mistake. Or maybe he was trying to say "the guy in the back , feel more pain"?steph {207}
I would use the broom stick because I play softball, so I have a lot of swinging power. Awesome show again.Glenn
Well Scott, that's why reverse grip take more control in order to make it effective. Stabbing through the rib is nice, but if you can angle your strike to fit between you opponents ribs you can do quite a bit of damage. Its kind of a moot point though because you can do either type of strike with a normal or reverse grip. Oh, and at the risk of sounding incredibly geeky, there is a mineral in the star wars universe that's resistant to light sabers. All you'd need is an arm guard made out of ... more (161 words)Scott
At the risk of being gory, if you hold a knife point up it fits better in between the bad guy's ribs. If you hold it point down, the blade just tends to rake across them. It is a moot point when it comes to lightsaber dueling. Personally, I'd want to keep that beautifully glowing instantly-cuts-off-whatever-body-part-it-touches blade as far away from my own arms, legs, head, and torso as possible. Definitely point up.Meandering {207}
I'm a redhead (strawberry blonde actually) and while I agree we probably do have more pain hormone released to trigger pain, I can't say I have superpowers when feeling pain. I do like the reverse grip info, but I'm with behind the camera guy and high-tail it outta there!Kel [22]
Nice segues! I definitely don't use a reverse grip when using that kind of weapon... generally a more standard toothbrush-hold, which is much more effective for fighting plaque.Rabble of Redheads [22]
As a redhead, and one that has undergone two major abdominal surgeries (C-sections), I can vouch for the increased pain thing. When I was in the hospital, the nurses and my doctor told me that redheads tend to request pain medication more often, and also bleed more than other people. Although that's not so good, I usually love being a redhead!rdcjr1290
I'm a redhead. The pain thing is totally true. Also, Chuck Norris is AWESOME! He sang the theme song to his own (arguably worse ever) t.v. show, and he can take all y'all. And, he doesn't have a chin. He has a third fist.marc
Spectacular transitions!Drecon [22]
Oh, the thing with the pain receptors is actually almost right. You see, we don't really need the brain to respond to pain. Just to feel it. When you get hurt the first reaction is by your muscles pulling back. Then, when you are safe, the signals reach your brain and you become aware of the pain. . If the signals would go to the brain first it would take a long time to respond. The pain is actually just so you can learn that sticking your hand in a flame is bad.Glenn
-Abaddon, I've never used one myself but I would assume that Lightsabers are . . . well . . . light. Think about it, the blade has no mass. You're basically just swinging a handle around. Now combine that with a sword style thats known for being fast AND ruthless. Sounds like a wining combination for a Sith Lord if you ask me. Unfortunately I don't have any links on the subject of iedo, but you'd probably come up with something worth while if you google the name. Most of my knowledge comes from ... more (183 words)Conyngham
Reverse grip is also used when fighting with two Malayan krises. The one in your strong hand is the one you fight with and is held in a regular grip, while the one in your weak hand is reversed and held against the forearm. You use that one for purely defensive stuff. Or for if you drop your first knife. Or if your first knife becomes unusable because someone exploited the all-too-thin tang by bashing your knife with a heavy object and bending it all out of shape.The Brothers Winn
Curtis, I can’t pretend to have any practical knowledge on the use of a reverse grip in a fight either. I run away. - the guy behind the cameraCurtis
I can't pretend to have any practical knowledge on the use of a reverse grip in a fight, but it seems like what you described, Glenn, would fare better for a sword fight than a knife fight. However, I appreciate your history and analysis of it. Good show, as usual. See you in "six" days?Abaddon
Hmmm... Thanks Glenn, you got some links on you? I may do some research of my own on this one. Now that I think about it, I can come up with a couple of reasons to hold a knife in a reverse grip. Still can't figure out why you would do it with a lightsaber though.Glenn
I'm afraid I have to disagree with Brett (formerly known as the guy in front of the camera) regarding the reverse grip question. Reverse grip was first truly develop through a Japanese sword style called Iedo (I think that's how you spell it). Iedo spends a lot of time in reverse grip for two reason: its provides for very fast solid blocking, and all techniques can be transformed into a strike with a flick of the wrist. Iedo was originally developed as a quickdraw sword style designed to counter assassins. Because of its quick techniques, fast ... more (153 words)Guin
Sooooo...Camera Guy is a Red Head? hmmm. Anyways ,how about doing a show on voice acting? How to get into it.Russ [22]
How's the syndication quest coming along?Abaddon
Yay, my question got answered! Thank you.Anonymi [22]
Now I have to ask, what I so wrong with Utah? Though if you drove through southern Utah I could agree with you. I go to school in southern Utah and I have to admit that nothing is going on besides the tiny little retirement city that is known as St. George. Other words everything is happening in Northern Utah.Jennifer McKenzie
Wow!!! How many emails is that in one episode? Can you beat it? Great show.